I think I've finally made a decision about my next car, tell me I'm not crazy.

"71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors" (adamprotter) 03/20/2018 at 09:51 • Filed to: None

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I believe I’m going to sell my 2016 WRX STi on the private market and get a 2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0t with a 6-sp manual transmission. I love my STi, but with the amount I’m commuting now, it’s just not very practical and I’m not using it for how it was intended. I know it’s not a crime to want a comfortable stick shift car with adaptive cruise control and all the other modern safety features my STi lacks, but it still feels weird. In a few years when I’m done with school and have space, I’m planning on getting an old MGB-GT for a fun weekend car. I test drove the Accord and it was a pleasure to drive and it’s going to be significantly better suited to my commute which is like 44 miles each way on bumpy Connecticut highway. Please tell me I’m not insane for wanting a comfy ride, better safety features, and a better infotainment system.

CalzoneGolem > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:07

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I can’t tell you that you aren’t crazy but this isn’t definitive proof that you are crazy.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:07

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You don’t need a fast car to be a car guy. The Accord seems like a really nice car for the price, and with the 2.0t and a stick I’m sure it’s still a blast to wring out.

OPPOsaurus WRX > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:08

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OPPOsaurusWRX does not approve

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:08

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Solid Choice. The 2.0T and manual has been getting really good reviews. You really can’t go wrong with an Accord. Could you get a used manual German sedan for the same price (around 28K I believe)? 

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:09

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Go buy an LS400 for cheap and have both!

syaieya > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:09

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While i personally dont care for the accords looks, theyre supposed to be solid cars. And honest, the mentality of comfy, safer, and better tech in a daily is some of the bigger reasons i picked up my current daily.

71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors > OPPOsaurus WRX 03/20/2018 at 10:13

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Fair enough. In other news, wanna buy an STi?

WilliamsSW > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:14

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I just drove a Sport 2.0, but with the CVT, and I really liked the car, other than the transmission (which was still good for a CVT).

Dealer didn’t have a 3rd pedal version, but I think this would be a great choice with a manual. I loved the steering, had plenty of power, comfy, roomy, etc etc etc.

tl;dr - do it

71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/20/2018 at 10:15

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Thanks. Yeah, the car wasn’t quite as responsive as my STi, but it felt torquey and like it had a bit of soul. Plus, being able to get 10+ mpg better while also being able to buy lower grade gas is a nice plus too.

camarov6rs > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:17

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Have you checked out the Civic Si? It should be a fair bit comfier than the STI but it would lack all the safety tech. I mention it because it might give a little more tossable feel than the Accord.

OPPOsaurus WRX > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:17

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I’ll trade my Focus for it. Unfortunately that is about all I have to offer.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:19

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I hear you. My daily is a ‘93 F150, while I love it, I really would like to get something newer, safer, comfier, quieter, and with better fuel economy for commuting purposes. I’m still probably a couple years away from a new vehicle though.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:21

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I find this philosophy fascinating. I know that I picked up my STi because I wanted a modern, comfortable, and safe car to commute in. But this is because I had been dailying a Miata for 3 years so my perspective is whack lol. Its just funny to me because I think of the STi as my far too complicated and modern vehicle to get me to and from places that involve long seat time and lots of highway. Its just a better suited vehicle than my Miata for that. It has AC and a roof that actually keeps out the wind/sun. Plus it has paint on it and far fewer miles so less stuff breaks. Yeah I get shit for gas mileage but who cares when I can blast down the road with my 300hp! Lol its just interesting to me since the previous owner of my car had the exact same sentiment as you and went with a Lexus for the same reasons. At least you are staying manual!

Milky > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:27

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But what about?

71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 03/20/2018 at 10:31

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Like my first car was a 71 MGB-GT and my second was a MR2 spyder so I totally get that perspective too. When I switched to the WRX and then the WRX STi, it felt SO much more luxurious. I know this is pretentious, but the driving roads out here in Connecticut are so bad compared to SoCal that it’s just not worth it. I was used to driving the canyons every weekend which made the cars faults tolerable and endearing, but now that I’m doing more highway and fewer PCH runs. Every time I get in I just have the urge to stretch it’s legs and I have nowhere to do so which honestly makes me a bit sad. I go back to SoCal a few times a year to visit family and I’m able to have quite a bit of fun out there with my mom’s RC-F which is nice.

Chariotoflove > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:37

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I bought a large luxury sedan. I’m not going to judge. There are many facets to cars to be enthusiastic about. You’re trying out a different one now.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 03/20/2018 at 10:44

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You know, at first I thought you were just a troll who believed he was truly the king of Wakanda but now you’ve proven me your worth. But my approval usually means nothing to people so just keep on doing what you do.

.... Wakanda forever!

BeaterGT > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:48

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Has a bit of a pug-face, but definitely the more practical car. What kind of safety features does it have over the STi? Everything?

t0ast > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:49

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If you’re crazy, then I’m crazy as well. The Exocet has upset the balance/needs of my garage, so I have plans to eventually shift my Outback and NC into a tow vehicle and something comfortable and reasonably fuel-efficient for commuting and road trips (but not totally soulless). For the later of those two, that 2.0t + MT Accord sure is looking like a very promising candidate.

BeaterGT > Milky 03/20/2018 at 10:49

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This is good Oppo. Also... 32k? Jesus.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:50

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If I drove 90 miles a day that’s the kind of car I’d want. Comfortable, good MPG, but you don’t have to sacrifice all of your driving fun. I would look into a Kia or Hyundia tho kiss because of their 7/75 bumper to bumper warranty since you’re going to be racking up the miles pretty fast.

S65 > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:50

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I have no idea how good these new Accords are but I think they are great looking cars and I can completely understand why you would want a more comfortable and practical DD. Do keep us in the loop if you do end up getting one.

71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors > BeaterGT 03/20/2018 at 10:51

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The Subi has no active safety features and the Honda has basically everything (active cruise control, lane keep assist, Forward Collision Warning and Collision Mitigation Braking System). The only safety feature my Subi has that the honda doesn’t is the fact that the Subaru is bright blue and is very visible

Derpwagon > WilliamsSW 03/20/2018 at 10:53

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IIRC the sport 2.0T comes with a 10 speed auto, not a CVT.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 03/20/2018 at 10:54

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I am also the Black Panther, not just the King of Wakanda

I am still a troll and I wont stop shitposting

You too can be anyone you want on the internet

WilliamsSW > BeaterGT 03/20/2018 at 10:54

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I’d be willing to bet $50 that car is an automatic (the sticks seem to be in the $40k+ range.) :/

E92M3 > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:59

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44 miles each way? For the love of god man, get an automatic.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 10:59

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Yup I am in Socal now so that makes even more sense. Although if I had a shorter commute my Miata would still be the perfect daily here just because it is always top down weather. But I want my Miata to be more of a track focused car so its tough to make those compromises to keep it comfortable for long drives. And yeah I am on the PCH every day so my perspective is super whack haha.

Milky > WilliamsSW 03/20/2018 at 10:59

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Damn, you’re right.

BeaterGT > WilliamsSW 03/20/2018 at 11:02

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Damnit. It really is the GXP all over again.

WilliamsSW > Milky 03/20/2018 at 11:03

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Yeah, I’ve been watching these off and on. Drove one back at Christmas (auto) and loved it.

BeaterGT > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 11:03

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Hahah, and you’ll a miser when it comes to gas as well. Are they valued similarly?

WilliamsSW > Derpwagon 03/20/2018 at 11:04

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Weird - I just looked, and you’re right. But the salesman told me it was a CVT and it *FELT* like a CVT. Maybe he grabbed a 1.5 instead, but it seemed like too much power to be the 1.5.

Either way, this car with a manual would be a hoot.

Dasupersprint - base trim is enough > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 11:07

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I love the new Accord, so do it.

Now is the time to ask something I’ve been wondering about: You mentioned adaptive cruise and stick shift. How does it work? When it has to slow down how does it not stall? And will it try to go 70 mph in 3rd gear?

Just asking

Derpwagon > WilliamsSW 03/20/2018 at 11:09

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Actually I don’t think any of the sport trims come with CVT, only the base and touring and whateverthehell. I could be wrong on the 1.5 though.

Saw one in person yesterday when buying a new to us 2014 CR-V to replace my wife’s Buick, the new accord sport is really a good looking car.

DanimalHouse > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 11:11

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Consider the Hondata FlashPro Stage 1 or 2 tune. For ~$700, it provides a bunch of power!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyDhJtapFXQ

WilliamsSW > Derpwagon 03/20/2018 at 11:13

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Their website says the 1.5 sport does come with the CVT, and the 2.0 is the 10 speed.

The nose of the Accord is a little weird, but otherwise I like the look of it, too.

WilliamsSW > BeaterGT 03/20/2018 at 11:22

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Yup - all the more reason to buy one, really. Not that it’s an investment, but I think you’ll take less depreciation hit on this car as long as you keep it in good shape.

Textured Soy Protein > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 11:32

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I don’t mind the cruiser option if it’s the right car for your needs. This is not a bad choice at all. But how much of your commute is in stop & go traffic? If you have a lot of that would you really still want a manual?

I also wonder how well the pre-collision braking works with the manual transmission. Honda lists it in the specs for the manual model, at least. I just know Subaru doesn’t offer EyeSight on manual transmission models because they can’t get the active safety to play nice with the stick shift.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 03/20/2018 at 11:34

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Shitposting isn’t trolling, it’s the way of the Oppo. And I’d rather stay with the basic car name-name. The more you know indeed.

...Kendrick Lamar is STILL after you, me guess you didn’t pay him enough to make the soundtrack. TDE wants your head and vibranium!

Lokiparts > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 11:37

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Definitely not insane, and I think the Accord is an excellent choice. In fact I have already made up my mind that when I am ready to pick up a new daily driver in a couple years I’m probably going to also be picking up an Accord too.

Except I’ll probably be looking for a 17' V6 coupe. Just because they are the end of an era. The last coupe and V6 ever offered in an Accord.

Plus honestly I have some concerns about long term reliability of the smaller turbo engines. Their old outgoing V6's on the other hand are excellent reliable engines that have been thoroughly refined through many iterations.

Derpwagon > WilliamsSW 03/20/2018 at 11:38

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Ah got it. Thanks I was too lazy to go to the website to confirm. I hear you on the nose, but with the sport trim the chrome ‘mustache’ is blacked out so I think it works better on the car.

WilliamsSW > Derpwagon 03/20/2018 at 11:50

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Yeah - I had gone out to the website to confirm you were right about the 2.0/10 speed, and saw that the two engines had different autoboxes. :)

RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire > Lokiparts 03/20/2018 at 11:51

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Used to think Accord coupes were hideous but they’ve grown on me. Like the Civic Type-R and foot fungus.

WRXforScience > E92M3 03/20/2018 at 11:51

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At those distances you are on the highway just about the whole trip, so there isn’t a difference between manual and automatic. The auto is only good for stop and go, which if you have on top of 44mi your commute is just too damn long and you should move or try to find a new job.

You’d be spending $300-$400 per month just on gas which could be put towards higher rent/mortgage closer to work and save you the extra hour of commuting (I know I value skipping rush hour traffic at about $20, which works out to about $400 per month).

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 03/20/2018 at 11:53

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Tell him

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RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 11:59

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SoCal roads aren’t much better. Had a 40 mile commute for a bit and the S2000 got benched for a ‘99 Camry with actual suspension travel and tall squishy tires.

Lokiparts > RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire 03/20/2018 at 12:02

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Yep, that’s how they get ya. Although honestly I find the slightly older 2015 or so coupes slightly better looking than the 16s and 17s. You can see the beginnings of the new pug face on the newer ones but the 13-15's have a much more classy timeless look to them... but you can’t get them with the cool LED headlights...

Derpwagon > WilliamsSW 03/20/2018 at 12:05

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Damn CVT witchcraft.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 03/20/2018 at 12:07

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Even if you manage to beat all of Top Dawg Entertainment the whole rap community will come after you. Swae Lee of Rae Sremmurd was also on the soundtrack,and they’re direct rivals to Migos and once Migos gets involved then you’re screwed.

Long-Voyager > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 12:13

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I won’t fault you for wanting a more comfortable ride, but wanting distraction features and a better screen in your dash to stare at?

Long-Voyager > WilliamsSW 03/20/2018 at 12:14

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It’ll still be more fun than the Accord......

WilliamsSW > Long-Voyager 03/20/2018 at 12:19

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I’ve driven both. That’s not even a contest - - I like the Accord, but the SS is a lot of fun.

shop-teacher > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 12:21

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That sounds like a rather sane decision to me.

boxrocket > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 13:04

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“Better infotainment system” - you haven’t been in a new Honda lately, have you?

Also, ew. Ugly, even in black. Buy buying one you are affirming Honda’s choice to make their cars borderline offensive to look at.

Mazda6 has the turbo engine this year and leads the pack in torque, their infotainment system - while slow at times - is intuitive, user-friendly, and functional.

Fusion - while slightly dated now - has a lot of great features, is roomy, and can get AWD, so you’d miss your Subaru less.

Sonata & Optima are both pretty solid.

Camry is a class standard, and while I don’t like the new one’s exterior, it still has the V6 available, which is tried, true, and reasonably potent.

Dark chocolate > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 13:41

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Thanks for the post.

here’s the reason I thank you:

I have been looking at getting the 2018 2.0T or the 1.5T 6 speed. And I have always wanted the adaptive cruise control. I just don’t understand how it’ll (the adaptive part) work in a manual transmission.

Any Idea? Since you test drove one.

Also I drive 120 miles a day and adaptive will definitely help.

Dark chocolate > Milky 03/20/2018 at 13:44

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Do not buy that car.

I drive a a whole lot (120 miles a day) and that car will kill you on mileage and tires.

How do I know?

I own one. A 17 SS 6 speed. Never averaged above 23 (going down hill)

71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors > Dark chocolate 03/20/2018 at 14:03

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From what I understand, you engage it when in gear while cruising on the highway and if you shift, it automatically deactivates or if you’re near stalling. It seems a bit more complicated than in an automatic, however it seems really nice if you’re chilling in 6th in the left lane.

JeffFurbs > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 15:01

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Please tell me you don’t chill in the left lane...

71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors > JeffFurbs 03/20/2018 at 15:09

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That was more metaphorical

JeffFurbs > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 15:11

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I’ll see myself out then

Roundbadge > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 03/20/2018 at 15:55

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I daily a 5-spd Tacoma, but my other car is a ‘15 Accord. I love my truck for many reasons, but it is so nice to slide into that Accord and ride in comfort every so often. I don’t blame anyone for wanting an Accord.

Good on you though, for holding out for the Sport with the 6-spd. I argued hard for that, but ended up with an EX with a CVT. I don’t hate the CVT, but I wouldn’t choose it if it was up to me alone.